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I feel like this is simultaneously the most enjoyable and least interesting Zimmer score of the last several years. It's nice to listen to, but it's basically the 1994 score rerecorded and tweaked in just a few places. Those tweaks do produce some highlights especially in the stampede and final battle sequences, but it's hard to think of this as a major effort, really. Yeah, it's good, but we've known that The Lion King is good for 25 years.I seriously don't understand why they didn't do two separate releases like most musicals do (La La Land comes to mind - perfect release). <br><br>A soundtrack album and a score album. No missing tracks, no fuss. And optional 2-CD set containing both.<br><br>Instead, they went with a soundtrack album with some of the score and another song album for whatever reason that is lol.The second half of the new "Elephant Graveyard" is basically note for note "I Was Just Trying to Be Brave" from the 1994 version as well, just with a few changes in orchestrationThis is only HGW's score, a good chunk of it was rejected.Wonder if it will take 20 years for an official complete score XD Not to mention any unofficial leaks (it took a long time to even get that for the original film). TBH, I'd prefer a proper release of any score any day of the week.<br><br>To answer the question above me: Mostly it's new material using the same themes from 1994, though if my interpretation the OST is correct, the hyenas and Timon and Pumbaa get new themes. The only true 'copies' of music from 1994 are Circle of Life and Remember, but even then, they are at least partially-new recordings.
Do we know who wrote what?Is it all material from 1994 or is it new 2019 score?I confirm I'm back from it, there's quite a bit of unreleased score.Well, now we have somebody who's seen it (and yes, it's out in some countries today), we know for certain.<br><br>I wouldn't expect anything official any time soon unless Zimmer wants to release a second CD.I absolutely love Kai’s theme in this score, there are so many cool variations that weren’t on the initial album. Hans and Co. really stepped up their game here. I don’t feel the temp as heavily here as KFP2 (which is still an amazing sequel score).
Saw the film today, there is a LOT of music missing.As stupid as this film is, you can tell Tom probably had fun working on it. The music is so over the top, it just goes nuts all the way through.This is one of those scores that I have really warmed up to since it’s release. The emotional stuff for Alita works really well in context and her “Hero Theme” gets some great development (the way it culminates in “Epilogue” is incredible). Also really love the “Motorball” stuff. <br><br>After seeing the film I think the only substantial music not on the album is “Motorball Plan” and “Alita’s Revenge Pt. 1”. The end credits piece I’m guessing is edited from the Full Motorball Suite.Hybrid, did Lorne actually do a lot of writing on this one or is he just being credited for the theme?We've had this argument before, almost any score can fit in a film. But what separates the mediocre composers from the best is the ability to make great music that works on its own, outside of the film. <br><br>Hans has had a lot of work lately that hasn't been doing that, and it's the reason people want him to work with orchestra again and produce is 2000s, late 90s type of style. Because those scores, for whatever problems they had, they felt distinct, memorable (for the most part), and easily could have been enjoyed away from the film.<br><br>Good scores have themes and ideas that both enhance the film, and enhance the listener's experience. Music like Dunkirk, Inferno, or Widows just feel like shallow and empty committee scores that the studio/directors didn't want too much thought put into. "Ah just write one main theme, and fill in the rest with electronics, Hans, it'll be fine!"
Hahahahaha well I’m glad he got the credit then :DI absolutely disagree with you saying Widows is a terrible score. It may not be great on album, but the music fits very well with the film.Actually, I think he only gets credits cause he is the guy... whistling ! :PElectric violinJust out of curiosity... what instrument is playing when Liv and Ben are running towards each other at the end? (Long Distance Goodbye/Landing? I love that instrument!
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  2018, August 22  updated by Hybrid Soldier
HANS ZIMMER TO SCORE WONDER WOMAN 1984



Hans Zimmer has signed on to score Wonder Woman 1984. Patty Jenkins returns to direct Gal Gadot as the titular hero. Hans first scored the character in Zack Snyder's Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice back in 2016, giving Wonder Woman her now iconic theme. Rupert Gregson-Williams, Hans's longtime collaborator, scored the first Wonder Woman film in 2017. Wonder Woman 1984 will be released by Warner Bros. Pictures on November 1, 2019.





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a Chinese fan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-29 11:12:43
Hey,master,when will you come to China?If you come,I think within 10 km radius of the recital hall will be your fans,we're thirsty!!!!!Come on,Hans,come to China and save your Chinese fans!!!

iamtommie reply Replies: 4 || 2018-08-24 14:46:30
Why are there so many people angry at Hans for scoring superhero movies again.
Averybody says something sometimes that they change later for whatever reason. We don't know what the reason is he's scoring X-Men & WW.

I personally think it's great that Hans is scoring superhero movies and beside that The Lion King and Widows. I think these four scores are going to be great.


mpolonest1232018-08-24 15:04:33
I fully agree. But I do want to see Zimmer actually write a fun and energetic superhero score, much like he did with TASM2 and portions of MoS (and even Megamind if you want to count that). We’ve seen Zimmer tackle the “darker” tone plenty of times with BvS and the Nolan trilogy.

Personally I did not like Batman v Superman, and frankly I’m glad to see the trend of overly serious, self-important superhero films go away. There will never be another franchise like Nolan’s.


mpolonest1232018-08-24 15:05:40
And as for the score *most likely* being analog synth, I think it could make for some fun music. Like a less abrasive version of Chappie...


superultramegaa2018-08-24 15:50:26
Well, just speaking for myself, I don't think Hans has it in him anymore. The Dark Knight Trilogy was well done, the little work he did in TASM 2 was pretty fun, BvS was a mixed bag, and his career has gone downhill along with his track record for superhero films.

I fully believe he had the most stress with BvS. You can hear it in the music. He just can't get a really great track in there. He's trying to make a new Batman theme but it's just a slightly re-arranged version of the "Batman Rising" theme from Batman Begins, boy choir and all. His Superman theme didn't feel any different in tone to his Batman theme, and the other themes (including Wonder Woman's) were kind of mixed bags themselves.

Of course I'd like to be proven wrong, but it's probably just going to be really cheesy and unpleasant to listen to synths with no orchestra in sight (IMO Wonder Woman's theme should be primarily orchestral because of her age and history), and the electric guitar/cello version of the main theme will be repeated ad nauseam. Very rarely in the past 2 years as he been able to reproduce anything close to how his career used to be.


mpolonest1232018-08-24 16:05:11
@superultramega
But that is your personal tastes. I get not liking synths/electronics, so this probably wouldn’t work for you. But for someone who does enjoy that style of music, I am pretty excited. It all comes down to personal preference.
And in the past few years you still have Interstellar, TASM2, Hidden Figures, KFP3, Chappie, Boss Baby, etc. I think Hans has still “got it” ;-)

But as for BvS, I do agree. Everything feels so uninspired. After MoS built up Superman’s theme, it gets completely downplayed. Even the action cues feel so lifeless overly processed. I feel like this was more on Snyder than Hans though. I wouldn’t be surprised if his “retirement” was an excuse not to do Justice League.

badbu reply Replies: 1 || 2018-08-24 08:30:50
Hans: i'm done with superheroes movies...ah okay...
i need a orchestral score now!!!


dirty_score2018-08-24 10:44:23
Since this is 1984, you can expect more like a synth sound which is not necessarily a bad thing... maybe a throwback to his old days..

Olive reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-24 03:45:34
Yeah! Come back, Hans!

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-23 16:19:09
not doing superheroes anymore? yea right : ]

clearly doing it for the ladies, in my humble opinion. and it's okay and fine. all that happened in hollywood cost dunkirk the best score award. dunkirk didn't get the award because people were not happy with hollywood. that's what i think happened.

NTNB reply Replies: 4 || 2018-08-22 22:52:48
Interesting. Makes me wonder why he didn’t score the first one. Busy with the tour? Clearly not retiring from superheros.

What’s even more interesting, why did he opt-out from Justice League?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:05:05
He was, in fact, in the middle of the tour when WW 1 was done...


Mike2018-08-22 23:10:09
Do you think Hans would have scored Justice League if not for the tour?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:16:18
Hard to say. I don't think so. I think he really wanted it to be Junkie's moment. I'm sure he would have helped if needed though. Under other circumstances...


Bill Koufo2018-08-23 07:19:05
Maybe the first Wonder Woman was the "amazing script" that Hans was talking about and that would bring him back to the genre. He made that statement in the beginning of 2017 I think, so I guess they asked him to score the movie and he gave it to RGW, because of the tour.

Mephariel reply Replies: 12 || 2018-08-22 23:18:59
I think he knew Justice League would suck big time.

Hybrid, is Hans done with The Lion King yet? I would imagine he has to be working on Dark Phoenix soon right?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:26:11
Widows is completed.

TLK is under way and a long process due to the nature of the film (animation, songs etc.).

X Men, he's been working on that for a long time. But since the film seems to be under heavy reshoots all the time, he doesn't even know when the whole thing is gonna be finished (it will have to, at some point ! lol).


...2018-08-22 23:32:04
Did HZ consider POTC5 and decide not to do it because of the tour?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:35:39
Never, he closed the POTC door right after POTC 4...


...2018-08-22 23:36:59
Okay. It's too bad how it turned out. They might make a 6th movie as well.


Mephariel2018-08-22 23:44:34
I kind of wish Zimmer would come back for POTC6 just to close the whole thing out. But I think there is no chance at this point.


...2018-08-22 23:47:00
+1


Mike2018-08-22 23:56:06
Eh, if Powell could come back for Jason Bourne, I feel like anything is possible...


Scorefan2018-08-23 00:09:31
@ Hybrid, Hans is considering leave X-Men Dark Phoenix with those massive reshooots?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-23 00:15:59
Have no clue about JXL's Justice League... As I said, I doubt he wasn't far in the writing process, but I also doubt anything got recorded.

As for X-Men, no, he's definitely NOT quitting it, no matter what's going on with the production.


Mephariel2018-08-23 00:39:56
@Mike

I hope so. But what is working against him coming back is that Zimmer already put his stamp on the series with At World's End. The POTC scores are already some of the most popular in modern times. There is not much motivation for him to come back. If he does, it will only be for the fans.


Nick2018-08-23 01:32:35
So much for retiring from the superhero genre...again. Lol

Sounds like Hans is going to be incredibly busy for the next year or so. Is he feeling at all creatively fatigued from all this?



ThePhantasm2018-08-23 04:04:08
@Hybrid will we ever hear Lorne Balfe do a superhero score? I'm dying to see what he'll do with that

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-23 00:08:21
@Hybrid, did Tom recorded some music for Justice League? I mean for this controversy about Snyder Cut. Some comments say the runtime with Zack is over 3 hours and there are comments about The Snyder cut is true and have Tom's music.

... reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 22:59:28
This is such great news! I can’t for this! 2019 will be really interesting!

Ro reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 22:51:53
Well, how's that for a surprise. One could imagine things shifting from HZ to RGW for a sequel, but not the other way around.

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 21:35:14
Yes!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 20:53:17
;)

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 20:27:46
Wow!

As much as I loved RGW’s score for WW, I’m so excited to see Hans return to the character. So much for retiring from superheroes lol...

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