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@Hybrid is this the combination of FYC promotional score + official release by LLL?Use your hybrid skills to unravel the mysteries of the score.Cuesheet is blank.oh yes please, including Balfe - donīt start yelling, Iīm just really curious who did whatFinally! It would be nice to have composers credits
@DT<br>Disney definitely tries to put quality into their projects, which is why I admire them. As youíve said, WDAS and Pixar are both churning out some excellent and original films. Even Marvel, despite its formula and flaws, tries new things with the films and stick closely to the source material. <br><br>The problem with the remakes is that they seem to be nothing more than cash-grabs that prey on nostalgia. If you are going to retell a beloved story at least try something different and exciting, instead of trying to copy/paste what everyone has seen.This is where I wish we could edit our comments.<br><br>Not only do you have WDAS doing mostly-new movies (I hesitate to say 'original') but you have Pixar doing them as well. Toy Story 4 was their last sequel for the foreseeable future, with them even eschewing the popular option of doing an Inside Out sequel for original projects.I feel like people are overreacting in a way that suggests these remakes have far more power than they actually do. The studio that makes them is separate from every other studio. WDAS is still creating new content and will be for many, many years to come, long after the remakes have had their heyday.<br><br>If anything, the proliferation of superhero films is far more likely to drown out originality on that front: there are multiple studios doing it.Order I went with for the album<br><br>Everything I Need (Film Version)<br>Arthur		<br>Home Invasion (Bonus Track)<br>It Wasn't Meant To Be<br>Permission To Come Aboard<br>Ask the&#8239;Sea (Bonus Track)<br>Atlantean Soldiers<br>Ahab Waves (Bonus Track)<br>Saving Pops (Bonus Track)	Soundtrack	0	1<br>Swimming Lessons	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis<br>The Legend of Atlan	<br>The Ring of Fire	<br>What Does That Even Mean?Soundtrack	0	<br>Obligation (Bonus Track)	<br>Dunes (Bonus Track)	<br>Map In a Bottle<br>Mera&#8239;Montage	<br>The Black Manta	<br>Trench Engaged (From Kingdom of the Trench)	Soundtrack	0	<br>Reunited		<br>What Could Be Greater Than a King?<br>Suited and Booted		<br>Between Land and Sea		<br>He Commands the Sea	<br>Ocean To Ocean (feat. Rhea)	<br>Everything I Need		<br>Suited & Booted (Our Empire Remix)<br>The Black Manta (feat. Jim Davies) [Future Funk Squad Remix]<br>Atlantean Soldiers (Glen Nicholls 'March In Formation' Remix)	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis (Glen Nicholls 'Escape to Atlantis' Remix)Same here. The cue I want the most is ďWe Strike FirstĒ.
@Edmund<br>I canít agree enough. These remakes suffer from the issue of being inferior to the original source material, mainly because they rely so heavily on copying the originals so heavily. Iím not necessarily against Disney updating their classics if they are willing to do new takes on the material. Take Jungle Book for example; they were able to do something fresh with the concept while keeping elements of the animated film. Even Maleficent, which Iím not crazy about, tried something new. <br><br>Another BIG issue Iíve noticed is the fact that they lean towards hiring actors who cannot sing, or at least cannot sing on the level required. Emma Watson, Will Smith, Chiwetel Ejiofor, etc.Best shot <br>It wasnt meant to be<br>Home invasion<br>Ahab waves (0:39-end)<br>Permission to come aboard?<br>Ask the sea<br>Ahab waves (0:00-0:38)<br>Saving pops<br>Swimming lessons<br>Kingdom of atlantis<br>Legend of atlan<br>Ring of fire<br>What does that even mean?<br>Ocean to ocean<br>Obligation<br>Dunes<br>Map in a bottle<br>Black manta<br>Mera montage<br>Between land and sea<br>Trench engaged<br>What could be greater than a king?<br>Suited and booted<br>He commands the sea<br>Reunited<br>Everything i need<br><br>"Arthur" and "Atlantean Soldiers" are probably suitesJust want shrike death cue!I feel as though Menken did a bit more to differentiate his 2017 Beauty and the Beast from the 1991 one. The major pieces like "Prologue" and "Transformation" were left relatively intact but otherwise the rewrite was a bit more substantial than what Zimmer and crew did here. Compare the final battle music from the original (which consists to a large degree of upbeat instrumental versions of "Be Our Guest") to the remake (which is largely serious, straightforward orchestral action music). I haven't heard his new Aladdin so I'm not sure what the old:new ratio was there.<br><br>I'm not necessarily complaining, this is basically what I expected the score would be from the moment it was announced. The problem lies deeper, with the entire premise of these pointless remakes that allow very little wiggle room for freshness or creativity. Of course, I have no doubt this movie will make north of a billion dollars and give the Disney execs further license to print money. Maybe by the time they've remade every single film in their vault enough time will have passed that they can just start from the beginning again and nobody need ever be subject to the indignity of an original story ever again.It's a variation of the theme Anthem from the first Top Gun film by Harold Faltermeyer.
whats the name of the song being played in this trailer?<br>is it available onlineThis is the perfect companion piece to the original. It is like the high level concert version that Zimmer never did with the original Lion King.Is there any form of chronological order to the original with the deluxe tracks?Looks like your wish was granted ;)<br>It's out for me and "Ask The Sea" is exactly the cue I wanted :D It's so good! I actually tweeted at him asking if he'd consider including it in the release - he didn't react to my tweet then and now I wonder if he read it or he planned to include it all along. <br><br>I've only seen the movie once and I haven't listened to the score much so I need to revisit it soon.
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  2018, September 18  updated by Hybrid Soldier
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Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 14:53:15
Congratulations to mr. Zimmer for his Order of Merit medal!

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2018-09-26 09:15:36
Sorry, I don't buy that story about his return to the genre. His words are stuff you say in front of a camera to look good and avoid complications. Everyone dreams of working on (and watching/enjoying) a project with good story, cast, and everything. It is just that these things are monumentally rare to happen these days. And when they do happen they usually come from small teams who cannot afford the likes of Hans Zimmer in the first place. Whatever is behind his return, I am sure it is not story or director. it's largely about expanding influence, and a good dose of financial incentives.

On a different note, I recall the WW motif was being attributed to Tina Guo in the past, but now Hans Zimmer is claiming it for himself. It does not matter who made it happen but I am curious, what was going about with Guo and this motif in the past, was it an attempt to overstate her contribution in order to get her recognized and hired - i.e. the things HZ usually does for friends at the beginning of their solo film composer careers?


Knight2018-09-26 12:07:50
All Tina Guo did in relation to the WW theme is performed it. Hans was the one that created and wrote it.


Mephariel2018-09-26 18:29:28
I am not sure why it is so hard to believe that story or director matters. They matter to virtually every top name composers because having good story and directors will increase reputation and legacy. Composers have repeatedly turn down projects in a franchise when their collaborating directors did not return. It is not just a Hans Zimmer thing.

Also, Zimmer has done plenty of small films like Freeheld for example. He is clearly looking for legacy and I agree about expanding influence. But I am not sure how much financial incentives matter at this point. His net worth is like close to $100 million.

As for Wonder Woman, I think Zimmer always say they worked together on the theme. I don't think he ever said Tina Guo composed the entire thing.


Ds2018-09-26 19:07:57
He composed it, she played it. But performers can leave their mark on the music, and I'm sure Guo put a lot of her personality in her performance. So this theme as we know it could be attributed to both. That's why Zimmer said he "couldn't get it right" until he brought Tina in. But on paper it's still a HZ track.


Anonymous2018-09-27 09:51:46
@Mephariel

What I meant to in the early paragraph was that every composer wishes to work on a project with good story. But good scripts and stories are rare these days.

Like I was trying to say, when good stories do happen, they occasionally appear in films and projects helmed by a crew of lesser-known or unknown talents. (comes naturally really as they don't have nervous producers to appease.) But then again those running these projects of that scope know they cannot get someone like Hans Zimmer on board so that never happens. Cases like Freeheld are too rare to be considered a norm.

Regarding financial incentives, I am sure it is present there in full force. He doesn't need it of course, and he is not taking several projects every year. But he sure doesn't look like he is taking anything that does not have a healthy paycheck guaranteed. I do not believe making music for FIFA, national geographic, volvo, netflix and alike can be considered small and humble.

Zack Snyder reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-24 15:07:40
He wants to compose for movie with good story.. retirement from superhero genre is just to chase Away justice league executives.. by the way how is HZ and JXL still buddies?

Poor Zack snyder reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-24 15:04:43
I think he just wanna compose movie with good story.. now we know why he said he is retiring from superhero genre

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fanuelalex reply Replies: 1 || 2018-09-22 08:19:28
so glad to see HZ back to the superhero genre


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-23 12:58:47
yeah I feel like it's been days, weeks even since the last one

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-21 17:45:44
so great to watch this new interview. it confirmed how i felt about wonder woman and widows. it is the right thing to do.

Hans's comment on losing his voice took me by surprise though. dunkirk touched on a few techniques i wanted to see explored more. i know other composers did it before. but i think dunkirk did a better job at putting those elements together... hopefully there is be a similar movie in the near future : )

Antos7 reply Replies: 5 || 2018-09-20 23:08:52
Balfe is doing Michael Bays next movie !!! Whatís happened with Jablonsky?


Scorefan2018-09-21 02:33:25
Maybe, Bay thinks Balfe is better than Jablonsky in terms of military tones and music.


Mike2018-09-21 02:59:20
Huh. I like Jablosnky, but I really liked the 13 Hours score, so it's hard for me to complain.


ThePhantasm2018-09-21 03:08:37
Steve is just trying to spend a little time with his family i think, he's not as busy as he used to be but i think it's cause he chooses that. Film Composing is an insanely time consuming job. I like Balfe a lot though.


MikeM2018-09-21 14:35:08
Balfe has constantly been brought in on Transformers movies , so great to see him working with Bay properly


Bayhem2018-09-21 15:24:39
Steve is clearly spending time with his family. He had a second child just a few months ago. I think he will eventually be back on the Bay Train.

And Lorne is the right choice for a "replacement". He's been involved in one way or another with the Bay movies for more than 10 years now. He's certainly not a surprising choice and I'm looking forward to the score. It's a movie that takes place all over the world, so I have big expectations for the music.

isildur reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-21 15:15:57
Hans says he worked so hard to get WW1 to Rupert, but didn't he also recommend that they try a female composer?

Josť DamiŠn reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-20 22:52:19
Review widows: It's also scored by Hans Zimmer, which means it is immediately in the running for best score of the year...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2018-09-18 20:45:25
Little HZ interview about a few things...


Dimitris Krommidas2018-09-18 20:58:51
Thanks.


Knight2018-09-19 12:31:50
Hybrid, all over the site there are no longer music extracts to listen to. For me at least, is it a universal thing?


Mike2018-09-19 17:04:02
@Knight, it's not just you.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-19 19:54:22
Audio is down unfortunately.

Legal reasons... Nothing to do with Hans or any composer who have always been very supportive.

Maybe it'll return, maybe not...


Knight2018-09-19 20:30:08
Article 13?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-19 20:37:28
Nope.


Even if it wouldn't have helped, I guess ! lol


Knight2018-09-19 20:40:43
Hope it gets fixed, I love listening to the suites you add to scores here.

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