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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfeís part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesnít seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richterís score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richterís score is used (alongside Balfeís material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly itís a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, itís very pretty. Iíll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His ďMusic For AirportsĒ and ďThe Lovely BonesĒ are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, Iíve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. Itís funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfeís contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). Itís disappointing that they didnít include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. Iíll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things Iíve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe Iím just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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  2019, July 03  updated by Hybrid Soldier
DARK PHOENIX - RELEASE THE SECOND PART OF THE SCORE - X-PERIMENTS



Hans has prepared and mastered a second soundtrack album called "X-periments" for the movie X-Men - Dark Phoenix.

The original score has been released, but this second part contains his ideas and suites, which we all would love to hear.

We kindly ask You to sign this petition so this material is getting a proper release from Fox music - at least digitally - as Hans worked very hard to put this together.

Thank You !

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Alex reply Replies: 8 || 2019-07-15 13:03:14
does anyone have some infos about the release?

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Hybrid Soldier2019-07-15 14:08:52
Honestly, Hans is in the middle of big TLK promotion right now, so wait & see...


badbu2019-07-15 14:28:06
thx hybrid. but why hans? isn't it the decision of fox music?


Impatient2019-07-15 17:34:54
Since The Lion King, in my opinion, is 99 per cent the same as the original, I simply can't be that enthusiastic about it. I would have preferred a special 2 CD (physical) edition of Dark Phoenix.


Bob2019-07-16 09:24:43
Fox Music ? Disney you mean... and Disney is busy with TLK so...


badbu2019-07-16 13:21:24
the album was released from fox music


Michael Hayko 2019-08-10 13:43:28
The only thing acceptable would be both parts of this score on at least two discs Set! We should not settle for less, so those of you who are willing to settle or push for a digital release &#129324;&#10071; And where the hell is Hans Zimmer isn't this his site? How come he's leaving us hanging, why doesn't he weigh in and give us an update!


Knight2019-08-10 14:46:51
The fact that the X-periments disc was even released is a small miracle, be satisfied with at least that.


Mike2019-08-10 16:58:08
Wow. The entitlement expressed here is amazing.

Kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 11 || 2019-07-11 21:20:44
I am not very familiar with how complete score or recording sessions leak, but if this fails can't Hans just have it leaked?


George2019-07-11 21:44:40
Iíve thought that as well. However that would take some time, and I think most of us would love the official version


badbu2019-07-12 08:11:45
good question...idk how this works.
But maybe we get a isolated score? like the first class movie ;-)


Edmund Meinerts2019-07-12 11:56:23
That would be pretty risky and could damage his working relationship with Fox...Technically it's their music and not just Hans'. Look at what happened to Gabriel Yared after he leaked his Troy rejected score, he has barely had any assignments since then.


badbu2019-07-12 12:07:41
jep..that's true


Mr.Unbreakable2019-07-12 17:07:54
Hans can do whatever he wants, he's a god in Hollywood


BC2019-07-12 17:10:29
It's possible. A lot of Hans' complete scores have leaked awhile after the original scores came out. Man of Steel, BvS, Pirates 3. It's not uncommon, but sometimes it really takes awhile.

Hybrid Solder, any new news? Closing in on 700 signatures now, so you'd think that the petition would be gaining at least a little attention. I NEEDS THAT SECOND DISK!!!


badbu 2019-07-14 18:19:21
listen to the end credits again and itĎs so so amazing! Love the score so much!


Ahmad2019-07-14 18:43:12
Nothing compares to listening to the end credits suite with IMAX speakers :D


badbu2019-07-14 18:56:37
hahaha :D
Yes! This was amazing too :)


Edmund Meinerts2019-07-15 13:32:22
"Closing in on 700 signatures now, so you'd think that the petition would be gaining at least a little attention."

Hate to break it to you, but that's laughably naive. No executive is going to even notice a petition with 700 sigs, let alone be spurred to action by it.


badbu2019-07-15 13:49:17
that's true...

NotaPix reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-12 17:13:56
I think I understand that this 'fox music' does no honor. perhaps he wants to make sense only of the meaning of his name... 'fox'.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 15 || 2019-06-30 16:00:15
Here ! :P


badbu2019-06-30 16:11:22
DONE!!!!!!!!


mpolonest123 2019-06-30 17:36:49
Just signed. Really hoping they can put this out at least digitally.


Curious2019-07-01 08:48:31
Isn't it possible to sell the rights to some special film music label and then we could get a proper 2 CD release? I don't get Fox.


badbu2019-07-01 13:13:44
how many signs we need? ... mhh :D
it's a shame from fox...it costs nearly nothing to release music digitally...


Nicklas2019-07-01 13:43:53
Done!!! Signed!
At least Fox could release it digitally. Hans has one of the biggest fan numbers out there. Impatiently waiting for this release!!!


isildur2019-07-01 15:33:23
Done.


Petition2019-07-02 23:54:13
400 Sigs Now!!!

Any idea if this has been passed along to the people at Fox? Surely they must know...


badbu2019-07-03 08:50:28
i think we need 6000 or more...good by second cd...


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-03 08:58:36
Not necessarly.


badbu 2019-07-03 09:23:26
i hope so...


badbu 2019-07-07 09:52:03
only 550...damn...


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-07 11:03:15
Don't worry, should have some news in the next few days...


badbu2019-07-07 13:06:19
sounds good :)


mpolonest123 2019-07-07 19:58:25
@Hybrid
Thatís good to hear, I was starting to lose hope. I have a feeling all of the really interesting material will be in suites.


badbu2019-07-11 17:19:16
hybrid my friend. how long are a few days? :D

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2019-07-10 19:09:53
come on guys! We need more!!! :-)


Srinivasam2019-07-10 19:47:34
WOW! What a unique name, Khushbu would have sound better ;-)
And yeah totally agree with you, we need more people on this.


badbu 2019-07-10 21:01:44
hahaha :D

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-06-30 19:25:34
DONE! it's going up quick let's do this!

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